1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,500 There are about 77 million documents marked as top secret or classified by the United 2 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:18,500 States government. 3 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:24,180 Among the most sensitive of those relating to top secret UFO programs and in particular, 4 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:30,780 the encounters by U.S. Air Force pilots with the so-called TIC-TAC UFO crafts in 2004 by 5 00:00:30,780 --> 00:00:37,220 releasing unclassified United States government reports in 2018 that include analysis regarding 6 00:00:37,220 --> 00:00:39,660 interactions with the TIC-TACs. 7 00:00:39,660 --> 00:00:41,820 Journalist George Knapp changed the game. 8 00:00:41,820 --> 00:00:48,240 I produced a document that was leaked from the government that did the first analysis 9 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,240 of TIC-TAC. 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,180 They leaked at all the sensor systems that were in the sky, from the ships under the 11 00:00:54,180 --> 00:00:59,460 sea, and they combined all that information to track the capabilities of the TIC-TAC craft, 12 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:00,460 and they verified it. 13 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:01,460 It was real. 14 00:01:01,460 --> 00:01:03,660 The same thing was true for the gimbal craft. 15 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:06,900 This information was never meant to be released to the public. 16 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:12,740 The military did this analysis behind the scenes, classified in a classified program. 17 00:01:12,740 --> 00:01:17,220 The fact that it is now leaked out has started the debate that we're having all over the 18 00:01:17,220 --> 00:01:25,160 world, but the proof is pretty solid. 19 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,760 How the U.S. government will respond to these allegations remains to be seen. 20 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,480 While in the first half of the 20th century, the government was still seeking an appropriate 21 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,840 strategy to deal with UFO stories. 22 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,120 By the end of the millennium, the way had become clear. 23 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:49,020 To investigate the phenomenon in absolute secrecy and, if any information should leak 24 00:01:49,020 --> 00:01:51,340 out, it must be denied. 25 00:01:51,340 --> 00:02:00,260 The trail obliterated and evidence confiscated or discounted. 26 00:02:00,260 --> 00:02:04,740 The government insisted that it's not there, it's not there, it's not there. 27 00:02:04,740 --> 00:02:12,540 If some undeniable incident occurs, it's going to make them look very bad. 28 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:23,760 The U.S. is great at making up false news stories and spreading them throughout the world. 29 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,240 The CIA is a master of this, they've done this for decades. 30 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:33,880 They're very good also at using the media to scare the public to engage in certain actions. 31 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,600 They do this all the time. 32 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,760 So they certainly would be able to do this about UFOs or UAP. 33 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:46,620 They have the capability to, if they were to release information, they could do it in 34 00:02:46,620 --> 00:02:53,180 such a way to maximize fear to whatever level they want that would be useful for them. 35 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:33,960 Top secret UFO projects, declassified, hacked and leaked. 36 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,780 There are many testimonials from around the world that information leaks to the media 37 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:44,000 about UFO incidents are undesirable and that they have been covered up. 38 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,740 On the basis of these testimonies, it can be reasonably assumed that some of these countries 39 00:03:49,740 --> 00:03:56,300 will have secret agreements with U.S. intelligence services who assist them in suppressing reports 40 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:58,840 of UFO sightings. 41 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:06,320 I was every single significant case, no matter what country, whether I had asked them to 42 00:04:06,340 --> 00:04:10,940 travel to America or whether I traveled to their place, they said, it's really funny, 43 00:04:10,940 --> 00:04:14,340 right after the incident occurred there were two men in suits that showed up from some 44 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:18,140 unknown agency in the U.S. government. 45 00:04:18,140 --> 00:04:24,620 They have men on sight at every one of these locations that I personally have been and 46 00:04:24,620 --> 00:04:28,140 they're making inquiries, they're trying to get an exchange of information, they're 47 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:32,820 trying to either silence witnesses, get whatever evidence that was gathered in their country. 48 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:35,060 So they played a very large role. 49 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:42,080 A prime example is one of the most remarkable cases of UFO sightings in history. 50 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,080 1966, Westall, Melbourne, Australia. 51 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,880 During the mid-morning break at Westall High School in Melbourne, Australia, there were 52 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:07,880 almost 200 children and school staff outside in the school grounds. 53 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:17,620 Suddenly, there was a commotion among the children outside and those looking out the 54 00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:20,580 windows gazing at the sky. 55 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:27,580 A disc-shaped UFO was hovering above them. 56 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:38,880 A chemistry teacher quickly took photos. After some time, the vessel descended into 57 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:43,040 a nearby pine grove. 58 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:50,040 My whole vision was on trying to just look at what I was seeing in the sky and taking 59 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:56,300 every single detail I could. 60 00:05:56,300 --> 00:06:01,300 There was a lot of noise apparently because the kids were excited, some were frightened, 61 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:05,420 whatever but I can just remember standing there because I'd never seen anything like 62 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:11,420 that before and I wanted to take in as much as I could because wow, this was just amazing, 63 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:13,740 just amazing. 64 00:06:13,740 --> 00:06:20,020 Fourteen-year-old student Madeline Smith ran to the landing site. By the time she got there, 65 00:06:20,020 --> 00:06:22,620 the UFO had taken off. 66 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:29,620 Marilyn's friend Tanya later fell unconscious and was taken away by an ambulance. 67 00:06:29,820 --> 00:06:35,660 Witnesses described one big flying disc and two smaller accompanying vessels, the larger 68 00:06:35,660 --> 00:06:39,620 vessel left behind a circle in the grass. 69 00:06:39,620 --> 00:06:43,100 TV crews quickly arrived on the scene. 70 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:49,100 Channel 9 TV filmed interviews with students and journalists interviewed witnesses as well. 71 00:06:51,020 --> 00:06:54,300 And then came the cover-up. 72 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:59,780 The Channel 9 TV report was never broadcast and no one ever saw the photographs that were 73 00:06:59,780 --> 00:07:01,140 taken. 74 00:07:01,140 --> 00:07:08,140 An interview with a student, Joy Tai, in which she described the UFOs, disappeared from the 75 00:07:08,180 --> 00:07:10,460 G-TV archive. 76 00:07:10,460 --> 00:07:16,460 All this after some mysterious plainclothes officials and soldiers arrived. When they 77 00:07:16,460 --> 00:07:20,820 left, a lot of the evidence vanished with them. 78 00:07:20,820 --> 00:07:25,580 The grass at the landing site was quickly cut and restored to normal. 79 00:07:25,580 --> 00:07:30,820 One week after the incident, the Dandanong Journal claimed that the situation could not 80 00:07:30,820 --> 00:07:37,820 be explained because there were no witnesses willing to speak about it. 81 00:07:40,940 --> 00:07:44,780 They weren't allowed to speak about it anymore, even the teachers were warned. There were 82 00:07:44,780 --> 00:07:49,300 government officials that came and told them they couldn't speak about it. And even the 83 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:54,300 news media that followed the story, when they went back to look at the files, all the files 84 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:58,780 were gone. They were taken. 85 00:07:58,780 --> 00:08:04,780 All we want is an answer. All we want is for someone to say to us that, yes, we know what 86 00:08:04,780 --> 00:08:11,100 that did happen that day. It was a very extraordinary experience, but something definitely did happen 87 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:14,700 that day. It wasn't in your imagination. You weren't on drugs. You weren't on drugs. 88 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:19,620 It happened. 89 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:24,820 More than 50 years later, witnesses have preserved the images from the children's memory and 90 00:08:24,820 --> 00:08:30,700 about how government officials tried to erase all signs of the incident. 91 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:36,140 The teacher who took the photographs had her camera confiscated and for a long time was 92 00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:42,140 threatened with having her career ruined if she ever spoke about the incident. 93 00:08:43,100 --> 00:08:48,940 So this was a government making sure that this wasn't talked about and even the headmaster 94 00:08:48,940 --> 00:08:54,100 was shut down. And that's what happened. And we know this happened. We know that. 95 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:58,860 They were like flying saucers and that's what we used to call them in those days, you know, 96 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:02,100 in comic books and all that sort of stuff. That's what they were. They were flying saucers. 97 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:04,380 So we called them flying saucers. 98 00:09:04,380 --> 00:09:10,180 But the frontline effort to cover up the incident by deleting all records, silencing witnesses 99 00:09:10,220 --> 00:09:15,220 and confiscating photographs was not 100% successful. 100 00:09:15,220 --> 00:09:21,140 Well, there is actually evidence. There's a polaroid camera, a guy that shot a photograph 101 00:09:21,140 --> 00:09:26,540 of it two days prior, 17 kilometers away. And it was performed exactly like the children 102 00:09:26,540 --> 00:09:32,060 said it performed right down to the point where it pivots up like this and rockets away. 103 00:09:32,060 --> 00:09:38,700 A young engineer from the suburb of Balwin took the picture of the event from his garden. 104 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:46,220 They show a metallic like UFO tipped vertically on its side. The Victorian flying saucer research 105 00:09:46,220 --> 00:09:54,260 society very carefully analyzed the photograph and they concluded the photo showed no sign 106 00:09:54,260 --> 00:10:00,580 of multiple exposure, montage or any other tampering. 107 00:10:00,580 --> 00:10:05,700 The strategy of rapid response to leaked information about UFO incidents was established in the 108 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:12,140 1950s during Project Blue Book. Techniques of manipulation and cover-up were improved 109 00:10:12,140 --> 00:10:20,620 over time and have since been developed almost to perfection. 110 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:25,100 So it's not surprising they were able to get people on board and the institutions. And 111 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:31,380 then as things went forward, they had to deal with increasing developments and research 112 00:10:31,380 --> 00:10:38,300 and evidence and they developed more skills and they applied everything they had at their 113 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:46,540 disposal to keep this issue from ever formally being confirmed. That's the truth embargo. 114 00:10:46,540 --> 00:10:52,260 However, a unique case of an uncontrollable information leak about UFO sightings is the 115 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:59,100 Cash Landrum incident from 1980, which could not be entirely discredited because the witnesses 116 00:10:59,220 --> 00:11:08,220 took an unprecedented step of taking the matter to court. December 29, 1980, near the small 117 00:11:08,220 --> 00:11:13,580 town of Huffman, Texas. 118 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:19,540 Betty Cash, Vicki Landrum and her seven-year-old grandson Colby are returning home along the 119 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:35,100 road to Dayton, Texas at night, when suddenly a bright light appears among the trees. After 120 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:42,180 a few bends further along the road, a diamond shape appears about 15 meters high at a level 121 00:11:42,180 --> 00:11:49,900 of the treetops. Vicki, a devout Christian, believes it is the second coming of Jesus 122 00:11:49,900 --> 00:12:00,380 Christ. She and Betty got out of the car to see the object and to welcome Christ. Flames 123 00:12:00,380 --> 00:12:05,860 are shooting from the bottom of the vessel and the car and surroundings become very hot. 124 00:12:12,860 --> 00:12:18,780 The object lit up the surrounding pine woods like it was daylight. I was burning, my skin 125 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:24,020 was burning, fire was coming out of the bottom like a boat torch. It lifted up and then flew 126 00:12:24,020 --> 00:12:30,860 over the trees. That was when we saw the helicopters come out. The helicopters. Colby County, 23 127 00:12:30,860 --> 00:12:35,580 of them. Yes, it seemed that they were trying to escort the crash somewhere. It looked like 128 00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:41,740 they were about to collide. The roar sounded like a tornado. When we got home, I washed 129 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:46,980 Colby off and put him to bed. When the water touched his skin, he cried out like he had 130 00:12:46,980 --> 00:12:56,100 been burned as if he had been in the sun too long. That evening, Betty, Vicki and Colby 131 00:12:56,100 --> 00:13:03,780 suffer from nausea, resembling symptoms of exposure to radiation. And I was too sick 132 00:13:03,860 --> 00:13:09,180 to work the next day. My eyes swell closed and welts appeared on my face and head. I 133 00:13:09,180 --> 00:13:14,500 thought it was going to die. Vicki came and took me to the emergency room of the hospital. 134 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:19,860 They treated me like a burnt burn patient. Over the next few days, I kept losing big 135 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:26,220 patches of skin on my face and about half my hair fell out. They kept me in the hospital 136 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:35,940 over a month with no improvement. April 1981, a CH-47 helicopter landed in Dayton and was 137 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:44,980 greeted by curious townspeople. The pilot mentions that he had been in Dayton a year 138 00:13:44,980 --> 00:13:50,660 earlier pursuing an unknown vessel. But as soon as he finds out that eyewitnesses to 139 00:13:50,740 --> 00:14:00,460 the event are among the crowd, he quickly ends the discussion. In this field that we're 140 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:04,940 in, there couldn't be more witnesses. But it's still not enough. It's still not good enough. 141 00:14:04,940 --> 00:14:10,620 So it doesn't matter how much proof anybody has. It's not good enough if it's too mind-blowing 142 00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:15,780 or too difficult to accept as reality. In accord, a lot of it would work. Yeah, there's witnesses. 143 00:14:15,860 --> 00:14:20,740 Oh yeah, there's evidence. There's marks. There's places, locations, this and that. There's 144 00:14:20,740 --> 00:14:25,860 stories. There's books that have been written. There's more evidence than we can possibly imagine. 145 00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:30,980 What people have to stop doing is saying, where's the proof? Because the proof is already there. 146 00:14:30,980 --> 00:14:34,660 Has the government ever expressed a willingness to take responsibility for this thing? 147 00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:41,100 No. And I'm mad. I'm mad as hell and disappointed with the government of our United States. 148 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:48,860 Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum eventually sued Berchturm Air Force Base for $20 million in damages. 149 00:14:48,860 --> 00:14:56,300 But in 1986, a district court judge dismissed the lawsuit because the helicopters involved had not 150 00:14:56,300 --> 00:15:02,180 been proven as belonging to the U.S. government. Furthermore, military officers denied in court 151 00:15:02,180 --> 00:15:08,940 that the United States armed forces possessed a diamond-shaped aircraft of any kind. But many 152 00:15:09,020 --> 00:15:15,100 years later, Richard Dottie, a former government agent of the Office of Special Investigations, 153 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:22,220 declared that it did exist. And it was a prototype vessel from a secret reverse engineering program 154 00:15:22,220 --> 00:15:28,860 experimenting with nuclear propulsion. A problem with the aircraft reportedly occurred in Cash and 155 00:15:28,860 --> 00:15:35,580 Landrum just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. There's been numerous craft 156 00:15:35,980 --> 00:15:41,180 around the world. And I believe that that technology was something that they wanted to keep secret 157 00:15:41,180 --> 00:15:44,700 for their own purposes. And I think this is why they're doing it around the world, 158 00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:50,860 because that technology could change the way that we are living now. And I believe those 159 00:15:50,860 --> 00:15:56,060 that have this technology are only going to utilize it for their own benefit. So there's lots of 160 00:15:56,060 --> 00:16:02,220 reasons why it suits them to keep this quiet. Over the years, there have been a number of 161 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:06,620 instances where leaks have come out, or at least what seem to be genuine leaks. 162 00:16:06,620 --> 00:16:08,300 One is the Gary McKinnon case. 163 00:16:11,340 --> 00:16:17,580 The case of the most infamous government database hacker, Gary McKinnon, is highly significant, 164 00:16:17,580 --> 00:16:23,900 since it is the most concrete information we have about the existence of a secret UFO program. 165 00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:34,940 He didn't exactly hack in. That's not quite accurate to say that he was a hacker. He created, 166 00:16:34,940 --> 00:16:42,940 I think he called it a pearl script, where he was able to find sites within that web that 167 00:16:42,940 --> 00:16:49,180 either had no password or had password as their password. Cyber security was really lax. But this 168 00:16:49,260 --> 00:16:56,140 is the late 1990s. This is why Gary McKinnon's attempt to download the photo was unsuccessful. 169 00:16:56,140 --> 00:17:02,780 His connection was able to be intercepted just in time by the government and the photo deleted. 170 00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:07,420 But that didn't prevent the story from breaking into a blaze of publicity. 171 00:17:11,820 --> 00:17:14,460 February 2001, London. 172 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:21,820 When Gary McKinnon sat down at his computer in London in February of 2001, 173 00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:26,540 to launch what was later described as the greatest hack of the century, 174 00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:31,900 he was inspired by witnessing something in the night sky at the age of 13, 175 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:39,660 something that had profoundly affected him. Gary had witnessed a glowing orange shape 176 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:45,980 moving in a way that left him no doubt that he was not observing a natural phenomenon or 177 00:17:45,980 --> 00:17:52,300 terrestrial craft. A few months after the 9-11 terrorist attacks on the New York Twin Towers, 178 00:17:52,860 --> 00:17:56,540 the following message appeared on one of the Pentagon's computers. 179 00:17:57,660 --> 00:18:06,380 Your security system is crap. I am solo. I will continue to disrupt the highest levels. 180 00:18:07,020 --> 00:18:10,220 The Pentagon was suddenly on high alert. 181 00:18:12,780 --> 00:18:16,300 What I was doing was illegal, but at the time I felt it was morally right in view of getting 182 00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:20,700 hold of this technology, getting it out to the public. And it was actually easy getting into 183 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:25,980 the Pentagon. I scanned for blank passwords. I'm not some great big computer criminal mastermind. 184 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:33,340 Between February 2001 and March 2002, an unknown assailant calling himself solo, 185 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:40,700 in fact, McKinnon's alias, managed to copy data from about 100 computers belonging to various 186 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:45,500 departments of the U.S. military. He copied data and passwords four months. 187 00:18:46,780 --> 00:18:51,100 I was looking for evidence of UFO technology, and I know that's laughed out by a lot of people. 188 00:18:52,140 --> 00:18:55,900 But I was working from witness testimony of a group called the Disclosure Projects, 189 00:18:55,900 --> 00:18:59,820 400 military witnesses, some ex-military, some still current at the time. 190 00:19:00,540 --> 00:19:04,940 Anything all the way up from radar, air traffic controllers all the way up to strategic air 191 00:19:04,940 --> 00:19:10,220 command. You know, very credible people, and they all said that yes, UFOs were real, yes, 192 00:19:10,220 --> 00:19:15,180 they were extraterrestrial. And in addition to that, rogue elements of military and intelligence 193 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:21,580 captured and reverse engineered some of the technology, and they had a free energy technology. 194 00:19:21,580 --> 00:19:24,620 And you know, in these days of oil crisis and stuff, I found that hugely interesting, 195 00:19:25,260 --> 00:19:29,100 and thought at the time was morally correct to break the law in order to get the technology out 196 00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:35,340 of it. Despite using an alias, Gary made no other attempts to cover his tracks. 197 00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:41,180 He wanted what he had learned to come out. He was arrested by the United Kingdom's National 198 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:47,580 High-Tech Crime Unit in March of 2002. We learned that his primary goal was to discover 199 00:19:47,580 --> 00:19:53,180 classified information about UFOs from the U.S. Defense Department and NASA's servers. 200 00:19:53,260 --> 00:20:00,700 He successfully engaged some top secret files, and they were bigger than that. And it was 201 00:20:01,740 --> 00:20:10,060 strange what he was reporting. It should have been ridiculous, except some of this is coming out. 202 00:20:10,060 --> 00:20:14,860 It's just that in my own country, the punishment of final authorized access is, 203 00:20:14,860 --> 00:20:21,980 you know, six months in prison or I think a year maximum. And I think the U.S. authorities have 204 00:20:21,980 --> 00:20:28,060 been extremely heavy-handed. And even they've got to the point where I'm officially referenced to, 205 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:36,700 as a terrorist, an official Army training manual for combating terrorism in the 21st century. 206 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:43,100 I think Gary had it exactly right. So he saw ships connected to the U.S. Navy that were not part of 207 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:47,820 the United States Navy of any inventory that we know of. And something called a ship of 208 00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:54,780 non-terrestrial officers, which was quite interesting. The real key to the Gary McKinnon 209 00:20:54,780 --> 00:21:02,300 case is how the U.S. tried to extradite him for more than a decade and really tried to ruin his life. 210 00:21:03,820 --> 00:21:08,220 Fortunately for Gary, he was not extradited and the British government 211 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:14,700 was able to defend him against extradition. Clearly, there is a difference between hacking 212 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:20,140 into government computer servers and databases and being in receipt of the same information 213 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:27,260 from a trusted source within the secret programs themselves. Even then, we would be just talking 214 00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:33,500 about fragments since government departments are so skilled at compartmentalizing their activities 215 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:40,940 and minimizing the risk of anyone potential source or employee being able to see the whole picture. 216 00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:46,700 When I had a clearance, there were programs I'd be in where I would have a lot of information 217 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:52,140 about a certain thing. It's like a pyramid. The more you know, the farther up this pyramid you go. 218 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:56,780 Okay? In clearance. When you're here, you see this much stuff. When you're here at the top, 219 00:21:56,780 --> 00:22:01,900 you only get this little tiny bit. Okay? And the next pyramid over of another program that might 220 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:08,540 be looking at a similar thing such as a UFO system or that's flying around, they're up at the top too. 221 00:22:08,540 --> 00:22:13,420 They never see your top of your pyramid or so they don't know the big picture. That's one way 222 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:18,140 they can compartmentalize it. They can keep a secret when they want to. So when they really 223 00:22:18,140 --> 00:22:23,420 want to keep a secret, they can do it and they compartmentalize it. When someone claims that 224 00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:29,500 he goes to Mars for 20 years and his time regressed and age regressed back, he's able to say that 225 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:34,860 because it's clearly not true and he's making up a series of fantasies. So that's one thing. 226 00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:41,660 But for legitimate information, we have to ask, well, why does any of it come out? Well, in general, 227 00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:47,900 we have to say that most of it never comes out. So most of the information within that community 228 00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:54,380 is still very tightly controlled. Absolutely. In the same year that the British and American 229 00:22:54,380 --> 00:23:00,140 authorities are negotiating the extradition of Gary McKinnon, another information leak occurs. 230 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:07,500 The world learns incredible facts from 15 pages of notes from a dialogue between a highly respected 231 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:14,780 scientist and a high-ranking official in U.S. military and national security. Many refer to 232 00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:23,580 this autumn 2002 event as the most significant UFO leak ever. It all began when three men decided 233 00:23:23,580 --> 00:23:28,780 to draw the attention of a high-ranking Pentagon official to a secret UFO program. 234 00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:36,700 I came here to Washington with a Navy commander by the name of Will Miller and Dr. Stephen Greer 235 00:23:37,740 --> 00:23:42,780 and we were able to get an appointment at the Pentagon to talk about what we knew, 236 00:23:42,780 --> 00:23:50,300 or what we allegedly knew, what we thought we knew and went and told our story. The Admiral said, 237 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:54,860 well, I don't know that story. I don't know that that's true, but I will find out. 238 00:23:54,940 --> 00:24:01,660 October 2002, Las Vegas. 239 00:24:04,220 --> 00:24:11,340 Physicist Eric Davis, a specialist among other things in advanced military technologies, arrives 240 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:18,700 at the EG&G building near the intersection of Greer Drive and Paradise Road at exactly 10 o'clock 241 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:25,020 in the morning. Another car then arrives with Admiral Thomas Wilson dressed in civilian clothes. 242 00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:31,260 Wilson, in his 50s, with an extraordinary career in the United States Navy behind him, 243 00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:36,620 and just a few months earlier, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. 244 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:44,700 He is accompanied by two men in Navy uniforms. Wilson gets into Davis's car and they spend 245 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:52,460 about an hour talking in the back seat. Later, Eric Davis reconstructs the dialogue into a 15-page 246 00:24:52,460 --> 00:24:59,020 document containing devastating evidence about the extent of government-led UFO cover-ups. 247 00:25:00,860 --> 00:25:05,580 They weren't going to let me in the door. They wouldn't accept my arguments that they fell 248 00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:11,180 under my statutory oversight and regulatory authority as Deputy Director, DIA. 249 00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:18,540 Wilson describes how he, an Admiral in the U.S. Navy, was denied access to all but a fragment 250 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:24,300 of information about the top secret program and that on the list of people granted oversight, 251 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:30,460 there was no one from the White House or even from Congress or any elected official. 252 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:37,500 It was not a weapons program, nor an intelligence program. It was something entirely different. 253 00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:48,940 The private industry is very interested in UFO technology. Eric Davis being the employee of 254 00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:56,540 Robert Bigelow and Robert Bigelow is, of course, the famous billionaire who has been investigating 255 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:06,060 strange paranormal phenomena for decades, also for the Pentagon. Eric Davis is an important 256 00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:13,660 scientist and they'd all been interested in what do the other corporations know. 257 00:26:15,180 --> 00:26:21,100 As the conversation progressed, Wilson revealed his concerns over the work within the top secret 258 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:28,940 program. And what were they then? They were a reverse engineering program. Something recovered 259 00:26:28,940 --> 00:26:35,180 years ago in the past. Program managers said they didn't know where it was from. It was technology 260 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:43,260 that was not of this earth, not made by man, not by human hands. So if it's true that private 261 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:50,060 corporations are in the possession of extraterrestrial remnants of whatever origin, whatever kind, 262 00:26:50,620 --> 00:26:57,340 then it is also logical to assume that other private companies who want to build that stuff 263 00:26:57,340 --> 00:27:02,780 may also be interested in knowing what do they know, what, you know, it's just logical. 264 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:09,100 Davis kept asking questions, but the more questions he asked, the less answers he got. 265 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:13,740 Eventually, he began threatening the men, which ended the meeting prematurely. 266 00:27:14,940 --> 00:27:20,380 Did you deal with it somehow? Turned to special access program oversight committee. I was very 267 00:27:20,380 --> 00:27:27,260 angry. Result? If I didn't follow their suggestion, then I would not see director DIA promotion. 268 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:31,740 Get early retirement, lose one or two stars along the way. 269 00:27:32,540 --> 00:27:38,300 And it was really difficult. He names the exact department where he got information about this 270 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:44,220 program. Eventually, they invite him to their facility, but just to tell him that he has no 271 00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:50,540 access and that he is not in charge. And they didn't let him inspect the site. They didn't let 272 00:27:50,540 --> 00:27:58,780 him inspect the project. Although Wilson never got inside the program, this recording of the 273 00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:05,100 interview contains so many details and names that most UFO researchers and investigators 274 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:12,460 consider it entirely credible. It confirms there is a deeply classified program hidden in the 275 00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:19,980 network of the Defense Department, whose purpose was, and perhaps still is, the study of extraterrestrial 276 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:28,620 technology. I think there's some interesting evidence for this theory that within 277 00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:36,060 government there are different factions. So government is not a single entity moving with 278 00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:42,860 one single common purpose. So you have competing groups, I think, within the government. There may 279 00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:48,380 be one group that wants all this information to come out and they're being fought by another group. 280 00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:54,700 Governments and corporations don't mind me talking about extraterrestrials 281 00:28:55,260 --> 00:29:00,860 or the underground facilities and they really don't like me talking about over unity devices and 282 00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:08,060 zero point energy, which I had laboratories that were making these devices as well. So all day long, 283 00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:14,220 I could talk about ETs because there's no money being made talking about ETs for them. And they 284 00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:21,020 don't believe anyone's going to believe this anyway. They don't care what you know, they care 285 00:29:21,020 --> 00:29:28,060 what you can prove. That's how this game works. The insiders or whistleblowers are mostly former 286 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:36,780 participants in these secret UFO programs. One such individual was Emery Smith. As a U.S. Air Force 287 00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:43,100 surgical assistant, he claims to have worked undercover on projects relating to the examination 288 00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:50,220 of extraterrestrial life. Smith described in detail how he participated in the autopsies of 289 00:29:50,220 --> 00:30:02,380 extraterrestrial corpses and how strictly the program was guarded. Emery Smith is a good example 290 00:30:02,380 --> 00:30:09,100 of someone who, when he joined the U.S. military, was given an option of becoming part of a Black 291 00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:16,220 program. And then when he did that Black program, he did that side by side with his normal military 292 00:30:16,220 --> 00:30:22,860 service because this is often the way which in the United States is done. Military recruits 293 00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:30,140 are basically given the option to do some additional work on top of their regular assignment, 294 00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:39,740 and that would involve extraterrestrials. Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico, 1990 through 1998. 295 00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:48,220 Base, there's a facility called Sandia Labs, and Sandia National Laboratories is another 296 00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:57,900 government-controlled corporation that does a lot of amazing things, but under that facility, 297 00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:07,260 and that's a base inside a military base. So it's like double security. And below that 298 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:12,460 that building and that little base is a whole underground facility. 299 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:21,340 Young Emery would enter the building through highly sensitive identification 300 00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:27,980 and security scanning gates. Specialty trained dogs were able to recognize if the person entering 301 00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:35,020 had an infectious or cancerous disease. Everyone who passed through the multi-stage screening 302 00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:41,100 received a special computer tablet containing all the information necessary to navigate the 303 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:50,300 underground lab and to avoid any paper documents in or out. In the early 1990s at a special laboratory 304 00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:56,460 where Emery usually dissected biological tissues from humans and animal remains, an arm lay on the 305 00:31:56,460 --> 00:32:04,540 autopsy table. Emery was convinced that this arm didn't belong to a human or was of this planet. 306 00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:20,220 I was amazed to see this arm with this hand with color and this blue iridescent field. It was so 307 00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:26,220 beautiful and what was so interesting is they didn't even tell me what I was supposed to do 308 00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:32,380 until I got in there. They wanted to see how I was going to react and if I would be a good 309 00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:38,940 agent to keep my mouth shut and that's all that was for and then I found out later that that arm 310 00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:48,060 was synthetic. It was a fake. Emery, as he claims, passed the test and gradually became a specialist 311 00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:55,420 in autopsies, retrieving and analyzing tissue samples from extraterrestrial corpses. He became 312 00:32:55,420 --> 00:33:02,700 part of the government's inner sanctum of closely guarded secrets on extraterrestrials and UFOs. 313 00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:10,940 There's many different kinds of extraterrestrials out there with many different kinds of looks. 314 00:33:10,940 --> 00:33:18,060 The one thing they all have in common is they all have human DNA. The second thing is they all have 315 00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:25,500 a head, two arms and two legs, the five-star, you know, pointed system of the universe, 316 00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:33,660 which is very fascinating. He soon gained the trust of his superiors, receiving special permission 317 00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:40,780 to access the laboratory secret archive. As he describes it today, it was so extraordinary 318 00:33:40,780 --> 00:33:46,140 that he became addicted to going there and discovering information that was forbidden to others. 319 00:33:48,380 --> 00:33:56,300 This is a giant room made up of eight large pool like pool tables about that size and they were white 320 00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:03,260 and they, you can access this with your hand or your voice and the AI knows who you are and you 321 00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:09,020 have a band on you. They know where you're at all the time inside the facilities. They know if your 322 00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:16,780 heart rate goes up, they know everything. So when you're in the library, you can request anything 323 00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:23,260 that has to do with your project or a future project or extraterrestrial or craft or device 324 00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:28,940 that you're going to be working on. The library gave him access to all the sensitive and closely 325 00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:34,620 guarded information relating to extraterrestrial monitoring work and the secret space program, 326 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:40,940 and it also offered a completely different perspective on what we perceive as established 327 00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:48,540 and unchanging in our solar system. He claims that he even saw the interstellar highway system 328 00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:58,300 in effect a map to the stars. So the library was just an amazing concept for me to get in 329 00:34:59,020 --> 00:35:06,300 and see things like the moon for instance. There was a great model of the moon three 330 00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:12,140 dimensionally that you can open up and look inside and you know the moon turned out being 331 00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:21,420 something I didn't realize what it really was. The question arises, how is it possible that a 332 00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:28,300 person can keep something so extraordinary to himself for so many years and why he has chosen 333 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:34,220 to share it now? Well what had happened is I had to come forward just recently 334 00:35:34,940 --> 00:35:41,580 within the last couple of years because I was working with some over unity devices and someone 335 00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:49,900 leaked some information at the lab and it just got a little scary. So I have been kept behind the 336 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:57,260 scenes for you know 27 years now but I've been coming to events and I've been an insider for 337 00:35:57,260 --> 00:36:03,660 many of my colleagues here for over a decade. I think not everyone within the military industrial 338 00:36:03,660 --> 00:36:09,020 complex supports disclosure. There are some groups that want to keep the secrecy for another 50 years. 339 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:15,900 But will their attempts be successful or is the genie already out of the bottle? 340 00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:23,340 A completely different attempt this time not to obtain information but to declassify the content 341 00:36:23,340 --> 00:36:32,620 of secret programs was leaked to the public in March 2016. Russian hackers send a phishing email 342 00:36:32,620 --> 00:36:39,820 to John Podesta who was at the time Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman. Subsequent opening of the 343 00:36:39,820 --> 00:36:48,220 Podesta mail allows the hackers to access approximately 60,000 private emails. Many of these of course 344 00:36:48,780 --> 00:36:55,180 related to the Clinton presidential campaign but some of them related to something entirely different. 345 00:36:55,260 --> 00:37:04,540 When news emerged that John Podesta's email had been hacked obviously everyone was interested in 346 00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:11,580 you know all sorts of different aspects of it but the surprising aspect was apparent communication 347 00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:19,820 between Tom DeLong and John Podesta about UFOs. Private emails from Hillary Clinton's advisor posted 348 00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:27,980 on WikiLeaks proved that former Blink 182 singer Tom DeLong did contact Podesta undoubtedly with 349 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:34,620 the purposeful intention of developing mutual cooperation on release of UFO information. 350 00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:42,060 Tom DeLong is a very nice guy. He is deeply involved in the UFO subject. He's also very familiar with 351 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:48,860 virtually everything you need to know about it and he's had some very interesting contacts in the 352 00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:55,580 U.S. intelligence community. As well as being Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign manager 353 00:37:55,580 --> 00:38:02,140 John Podesta's abiding interest in the UFO phenomenon was so well known that he was nicknamed 354 00:38:02,140 --> 00:38:08,860 the X-Files man in Bill Clinton's White House. The discovery of these emails reinforced the 355 00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:14,300 impression that Podesta could have been an active link between the White House and the emerging 356 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:20,300 group of government officials associated with the UFO phenomenon. I think what you can see from 357 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:29,100 those WikiLeaks emails is that Tom DeLong had been preparing a huge thing together with John Podesta. 358 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:37,260 How do you say there's a multi-channel marketing approach with books, series, TV, shows, feature 359 00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:44,780 film, stuff like that and he had the interest of John Podesta. With Hillary Clinton's defeat to 360 00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:51,180 Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election, the proposed link between DeLong and the two 361 00:38:51,180 --> 00:38:58,460 the stars Academy and the Clinton White House was no longer achievable. They therefore had to select 362 00:38:58,460 --> 00:39:06,940 an alternative plan to get the information out via the United States Congress. Have guided Congress 363 00:39:07,340 --> 00:39:12,300 with getting all the data, all the briefings and all the people in various parts of the government 364 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:18,540 to brief the senators and congressmen. We did all that. It actually leaked on a handful of weeks ago 365 00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:22,140 when you saw these articles in the New York Times and wherever where it said the Navy is creating 366 00:39:22,140 --> 00:39:27,340 formal mechanisms for reporting UFOs. That was us. That was to the stars Academy. That was our show. 367 00:39:27,340 --> 00:39:32,140 It's on the show. It's really just following around what we do at to the stars Academy. We 368 00:39:32,140 --> 00:39:38,940 deal with the US government every single day. I think Tom DeLong said in a tweet shortly after 369 00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:46,620 WikiLeaks published those files, those emails. He said, you don't know what you have just destroyed, 370 00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:51,740 the whole mess you have created. And I think they had a completely different plan in the beginning. 371 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:57,260 I think their plan was that Hillary Clinton would become president and that this would somehow 372 00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:05,180 they would somehow work together. Maybe the intelligence community is using this as a way 373 00:40:06,140 --> 00:40:13,020 to disclose but through the back door. And what I'm trying to say is that maybe politically, 374 00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:18,780 the president can't say my fellow Americans, people of the world, we're not alone because the 375 00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:24,780 implication is that governments have known about this and lied for it for 70 years. But maybe 376 00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:33,740 there's a way to just slip it out piece by piece so that the end result is the same. People end up 377 00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:42,380 knowing that this is real and and the information is out there. But it's done through this third party. 378 00:40:44,860 --> 00:40:51,820 In recent years, it has become clear that the effort to publicize information on UFOs has generated 379 00:40:51,820 --> 00:40:57,420 new momentum since the WikiLeaks scandal, despite the results of the 2016 election. 380 00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:04,540 In 2017, the Academy of Arts and Sciences with Tom DeLong and former Pentagon 381 00:41:04,540 --> 00:41:11,020 point men on UFOs Luis Elizondo released three videos from the Pentagon's secret program archive. 382 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:18,220 These videos have provided fascinating new insight into the extent of contact with and 383 00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:27,340 research on the infamous Tic Tac UFO craft. So far, this initiative presents UFOs renamed UAPs 384 00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:35,980 as a threat. But is it not more possible that technologically unsurpassable craft that have 385 00:41:35,980 --> 00:41:42,140 been flying overhead for centuries, perhaps even millennia, are more of a hope than a threat? 386 00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:49,820 The world is bracing itself for further revelations, perhaps a formal acknowledgement from the highest 387 00:41:49,820 --> 00:41:57,500 ranks in government that top secret UFO programs do exist and that they have shown, as so many have 388 00:41:57,500 --> 00:42:08,700 suspected, that we are not alone in the universe. We're going to have to help push along a process 389 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:15,340 in which the people in the world and government start to get more information and engage this thing 390 00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:21,580 until eventually they have no choice but to acknowledge, yes, there's extra trust 391 00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:27,900 with here and probably even say, and there's not a damn thing we can do about it. Firstly, 392 00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:36,140 we know that there are more videos, photographs and videos, like the videos that we've seen of the 393 00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:43,020 Navy jets chasing UFOs. So we go to see more of those sorts of videos, I think. Secondly, 394 00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:51,020 I think we'll see more documents and I think the other thing we will see is that more people who 395 00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:59,260 have been involved in this, either as witnesses or as people who have been involved in the program, 396 00:42:59,260 --> 00:43:05,260 they are going to come forward and speak out. I think that we're seeing what we're seeing now 397 00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:11,020 because of social media and the digital age, that everybody is sharing information at a rapid rate. 398 00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:15,420 So if something seems like it's changing, it's because the information is flowing in a different 399 00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:21,260 way now. This phenomenon is ancient as far as we can tell from the beginning of recorded human 400 00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:27,660 history. So we'll see what happens. So the military is always looking for money and they will use that, 401 00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:33,340 the public opinion, to scare the public so we can get more money to do this. We need a space 402 00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:40,140 force. Let's scare the public into thinking we need to protect them from your choice here, A, B or C, 403 00:43:40,140 --> 00:43:50,620 asteroids, aliens, anything. So that's something that does happen. This is a road and we're not at 404 00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:53,900 the end of that road. Yeah.